Meeting Notes
- Date: 2025-05-06
- Time: 9:00 (PST)
- Location: Teams Meeting
- Facilitator: @jeromelecoq @IBussi @hbelski
Meeting Recording
Agenda
- Walk through project website
- Brief recap of the project goals
- Discussion on collaboration guidelines Goal: Agree on guidelines
- Discussion on how we track progress Goal: Share how we will track progress at the Allen Institute. On board more teams.
- Discussion on Stimulus design and deployment Goal: Align on timeline and sub-groups involved.
- Discussion on Analysis plans and tracking Goal: Align on list of analysis projects and facilitate sub-groups formation.
Notes
Introductions and Project Overview
- First public kick-off for the Predictive Processing project.
- Round of introductions from the Allen Institute team.
- Walkthrough of the project website
Experimental Design
- Many community members are collecting data independently in their own labs.
- Kaspar asked whether the experimental design is finalized.
- Jerome clarified: protocols defined and carried out by OpenScope are already defined. However, satellite experiments can still evolve.
- Consistency across labs will be a challenge, but using shared stimuli helps ensure alignment.
Collaboration Policy
- Jerome walked attendees through the collaboration policy.
- Kaspar raised a question about authorship order in data set that were produced by independent labs.
- Publications will be led by contributing groups; if disputes arise, the Steering Committee will help resolve them.
- Julien asked how to contribute experimental data.
- Jerome encouraged contributors to reach out. If data has already been collected, it can be added to the website with an explanation of how it complements the existing dataset.
- Ryszard mentioned their team is contributing to the analysis plan.
- Jerome noted that current analysis tickets are mostly placeholders, but people can begin contributing directly on the GitHub board.
- Karim asked about incorporating stimulus variations and how to determine whether such data falls under the umbrella of the project.
- Jerome: If the project is listed on the website, labs should strive to align with the experimental design or clearly describe any deviations.
- Iterative updates and variations are welcome as long as they're documented and justified.
Project Tracking
- The team at the Allen is using a Kanban board to track tasks, which includes many placeholders to be refined over time.
- External labs are encouraged to use the same system to promote transparency and facilitate coordination.
Stimulus Design & Deployment
- Stimulus development resources are available in the “Project Resources” section of the website.
- Scripts were developed in Bonsai, and Josh Siegle wrote a guide comparing Bonsai and Python.
- Four required stimuli, three are currently under development.
- The standard mismatch oddball script is nearly complete, with some data already collected and available in NWB format on the website.
- Jerome collaborated with Kaspar and Maedeh to adapt the script for SLAP2 systems.
- Plan to schedule a biweekly stimulus design meeting for ongoing coordination.
- Andre commented they are working on adapting the protocol to primates. Requested feedback on how to tailor the proposed paradigm. One potential approach involves using joysticks.
- Jerome: Several joystick-controlled stimulus possibilities; ideas still developing. Encourage people to use the discussion windows to start a thread on the topics that need more discussion.
- Alex and Karim: Discussed gain variations and speed control in stimuli.
- Jerome confirmed gain is easily modifiable in the script.
- Any changes agreed upon in discussion should then be added to the relevant pages on the website.
- Jerome added access control to the main branch of the repo. Interested contributors can request editing permissions.
Analysis Plan and Coordination
- The project focuses on three main hypotheses, each with associated analyses.
- Coordination needed as data comes in to avoid duplication of efforts.
- SLAP2 dataset is available on DANDI, ready for analysis.
- Preliminary data shows dendritic responses to oddball stimuli.
- Results to be presented in upcoming meetings.
- Alex suggested creating a discussion page for analysis to facilitate feedback and idea sharing.
- Kaspar suggested to organize experiments on the website into groups rather than individual listings.
- Jerome encourage people to sue mkdocs.yml to add entries to the website and reorganize the experiments.
Next Steps and Action Items
- Next meeting 5/13: Stimulus design discussion.
- Following meeting 5/20: Deep dive into analysis plan, including SLAP2 data.
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