Meeting Notes

  • Date: 2025-05-06
  • Time: 9:00 (PST)
  • Location: Teams Meeting
  • Facilitator: @jeromelecoq @IBussi @hbelski

Meeting Recording

Agenda

  1. Walk through project website
  2. Brief recap of the project goals
  3. Discussion on collaboration guidelines Goal: Agree on guidelines
  4. Discussion on how we track progress Goal: Share how we will track progress at the Allen Institute. On board more teams.
  5. Discussion on Stimulus design and deployment Goal: Align on timeline and sub-groups involved.
  6. Discussion on Analysis plans and tracking Goal: Align on list of analysis projects and facilitate sub-groups formation.

Notes

Introductions and Project Overview

  • First public kick-off for the Predictive Processing project.
  • Round of introductions from the Allen Institute team.
  • Walkthrough of the project website

Experimental Design

  • Many community members are collecting data independently in their own labs.
  • Kaspar asked whether the experimental design is finalized.
    • Jerome clarified: protocols defined and carried out by OpenScope are already defined. However, satellite experiments can still evolve.
  • Consistency across labs will be a challenge, but using shared stimuli helps ensure alignment.

Collaboration Policy

  • Jerome walked attendees through the collaboration policy.
  • Kaspar raised a question about authorship order in data set that were produced by independent labs.
    • Publications will be led by contributing groups; if disputes arise, the Steering Committee will help resolve them.
  • Julien asked how to contribute experimental data.
    • Jerome encouraged contributors to reach out. If data has already been collected, it can be added to the website with an explanation of how it complements the existing dataset.
  • Ryszard mentioned their team is contributing to the analysis plan.
    • Jerome noted that current analysis tickets are mostly placeholders, but people can begin contributing directly on the GitHub board.
  • Karim asked about incorporating stimulus variations and how to determine whether such data falls under the umbrella of the project.
    • Jerome: If the project is listed on the website, labs should strive to align with the experimental design or clearly describe any deviations.
    • Iterative updates and variations are welcome as long as they're documented and justified.

Project Tracking

  • The team at the Allen is using a Kanban board to track tasks, which includes many placeholders to be refined over time.
  • External labs are encouraged to use the same system to promote transparency and facilitate coordination.

Stimulus Design & Deployment

  • Stimulus development resources are available in the “Project Resources” section of the website.
  • Scripts were developed in Bonsai, and Josh Siegle wrote a guide comparing Bonsai and Python.
  • Four required stimuli, three are currently under development.
  • The standard mismatch oddball script is nearly complete, with some data already collected and available in NWB format on the website.
    • Jerome collaborated with Kaspar and Maedeh to adapt the script for SLAP2 systems.
  • Plan to schedule a biweekly stimulus design meeting for ongoing coordination.
  • Andre commented they are working on adapting the protocol to primates. Requested feedback on how to tailor the proposed paradigm. One potential approach involves using joysticks.
    • Jerome: Several joystick-controlled stimulus possibilities; ideas still developing. Encourage people to use the discussion windows to start a thread on the topics that need more discussion.
  • Alex and Karim: Discussed gain variations and speed control in stimuli.
    • Jerome confirmed gain is easily modifiable in the script.
  • Any changes agreed upon in discussion should then be added to the relevant pages on the website.
  • Jerome added access control to the main branch of the repo. Interested contributors can request editing permissions.

Analysis Plan and Coordination

  • The project focuses on three main hypotheses, each with associated analyses.
  • Coordination needed as data comes in to avoid duplication of efforts.
  • SLAP2 dataset is available on DANDI, ready for analysis.
    • Preliminary data shows dendritic responses to oddball stimuli.
    • Results to be presented in upcoming meetings.
  • Alex suggested creating a discussion page for analysis to facilitate feedback and idea sharing.
  • Kaspar suggested to organize experiments on the website into groups rather than individual listings.
  • Jerome encourage people to sue mkdocs.yml to add entries to the website and reorganize the experiments.

Next Steps and Action Items

  • Next meeting 5/13: Stimulus design discussion.
  • Following meeting 5/20: Deep dive into analysis plan, including SLAP2 data.